
Troop 177 Insider Tips
- Fawn Creek Site A: 8–30 people, at most 8 vehicles, tent group camping. $68 for two nights and one booking.
- Doris group-site benchmark: $88 for two nights including $8 booking. Confirm selected site capacity and current fees.
- Maximum 10 people total per 3-day period; cannot reserve additional capacity. $16 reservation + $5/person. No open fires.
- Jay reports this activity was successful for the troop.
Availability: Confirm current access
Public campsite details
Recommended
- Recommendation
- Recommended
- Drive min minutes
- 120
- Drive max minutes
- 150
- Base budget status
- Base below budget
- Base low per person
- 2.62
- Base high per person
- 2.62
- Additional fees
- Optional activities, extra vehicles and amenities may add fees.
- Best for
- Scouts / organized youth groups
- Availability
- Confirm current opening and booking
- Action needed
- Confirm available group site, tent/trailer layout and actual attendance; 31+ participants exceed a single site.
- Group capacity
- 8–30 people; max 8 vehicles
- Max people per site
- 30
- Vehicles per site
- 8
- Price model
- Group/night
- Rate low
- 30
- Rate high
- 30
- Booking per site
- 8
- Other mandatory per person
- 0
- Cost completeness
- Complete base
- Sites required
- 1
- Base weekend low
- 68
- Base weekend high
- 68
- Price evidence
- Official refuge fee schedule plus Recreation.gov group-site capacity.
- Camping type
- Primitive tent/group
- Activities
- Hiking, wildlife, climbing, nature study, fishing
- Facilities
- Primitive group site
- Group camping
- Yes – youth groups
- Reservations
- www.recreation.gov/camping/campsites/10050744…
- Restrictions
- Fawn Creek Site A: 8–30 people, at most 8 vehicles, tent group camping. $68 for two nights and one booking.
- Additional source URL
- www.fws.gov/refuge/wichita-mountains/visit-us/acti…
- Source checked
- 2026-10-04
- Known fee allowance %
- 0
- Extra tent nightly rate
- 0
- Extra vehicle daily rate
- 0
- Vehicle permits included per site
- 0
- Entry per eligible person/day
- 0
- Billable days low
- 2
- Billable days high
- 3
- Estimate participants
- 26
Recommended
- Recommendation
- Recommended
- Drive min minutes
- 120
- Drive max minutes
- 150
- Base budget status
- Base below budget
- Base low per person
- 3.38
- Base high per person
- 3.38
- Additional fees
- Optional activities, extra vehicles and amenities may add fees.
- Best for
- Excellent Scout destination
- Availability
- Confirm current opening and booking
- Action needed
- Confirm available group site, tent/trailer layout and actual attendance; 31+ participants exceed a single site.
- Group capacity
- Yes – group sites
- Max people per site
- 30
- Vehicles per site
- 8
- Price model
- Group/night
- Rate low
- 40
- Rate high
- 40
- Booking per site
- 8
- Other mandatory per person
- 0
- Cost completeness
- Complete base
- Sites required
- 1
- Base weekend low
- 88
- Base weekend high
- 88
- Price evidence
- Official refuge fee schedule plus Recreation.gov group-site capacity.
- Camping type
- Tent, RV, walk-in
- Activities
- Hiking, wildlife, bison/elk/longhorn viewing, fishing, kayaking, climbing, photography
- Facilities
- Showers, restrooms, campground, lakes
- Group camping
- Yes – group sites
- Reservations
- www.recreation.gov/camping/campsites/10038826…
- Restrictions
- Doris group-site benchmark: $88 for two nights including $8 booking. Confirm selected site capacity and current fees.
- Source checked
- 2026-10-04
- Known fee allowance %
- 0
- Extra tent nightly rate
- 0
- Extra vehicle daily rate
- 0
- Vehicle permits included per site
- 0
- Entry per eligible person/day
- 0
- Billable days low
- 2
- Billable days high
- 3
- Estimate participants
- 26
Small crew only
- Recommendation
- Small crew only
- Drive min minutes
- 120
- Drive max minutes
- 150
- Base budget status
- Small crew only; 10-person permit
- Base low per person
- 6.6
- Base high per person
- 6.6
- Additional fees
- Optional activities, extra vehicles and amenities may add fees.
- Best for
- Backpacking / high adventure
- Availability
- Fri–Sun or Mon–Wed only
- Action needed
- Plan a crew of at most 10; cannot accommodate a 26-person troop.
- Group capacity
- 10 people TOTAL per permit period
- Max people per site
- 10
- Price model
- Permit plus person
- Booking per site
- 16
- Other mandatory per person
- 5
- Cost completeness
- Complete permit base; small crew only
- Sites required
- 1
- Base weekend low
- 66
- Base weekend high
- 66
- Price evidence
- Recreation.gov: $16 permit reservation plus $5 per person; 10 total people per permit period.
- Camping type
- Backcountry
- Activities
- Backpacking, hiking, climbing, wildlife, primitive camping
- Facilities
- Wilderness / no developed facilities
- Group camping
- Backcountry group limits
- Restrictions
- Maximum 10 people total per 3-day period; cannot reserve additional capacity. $16 reservation + $5/person. No open fires.
- Source URL
- www.recreation.gov/permits/4675313…
- Source checked
- 2026-10-04
- Known fee allowance %
- 0
- Extra tent nightly rate
- 0
- Extra vehicle daily rate
- 0
- Vehicle permits included per site
- 0
- Entry per eligible person/day
- 0
- Billable days low
- 2
- Billable days high
- 3
- Estimate participants
- 10
Campout activities
Bouldering at Mount Scott
- Recommendation
- Proven favorite
- Activity
- Bouldering at Mount Scott
- Drive min minutes
- 120
- Drive max minutes
- 150
- Fee low per person
- 0
- Fee high per person
- 0
- Price status
- Refuge admission is free; gear/instruction costs depend on troop plan.
- Activity categories
- Bouldering; Outdoor skills
- Season
- Confirm dates
- Group capacity
- Confirm group/event capacity
- Reservations
- Arrange ahead
- Equipment
- Climbing shoes/helmets/pads and competent supervision as appropriate to the planned activity; confirm troop equipment.
- Requirements
- Select suitable boulders, supervision and group rotation; confirm current refuge climbing/access rules.
- Advancement support
- Climbing fieldwork for selected requirements with counselor approval; skill practice is not automatic badge completion.
- Additional fees
- Camping, rental equipment and arranged instruction are separate unless expressly included.
- Related campsite ID
- PC028
- Source checked
- 2026-10-04
- Fee basis
- Per person activity fee
- Planning scope
- Regular regional campout activity; verify route
Hiking Elk Mountain
- Recommendation
- Proven favorite
- Activity
- Hiking Elk Mountain
- Drive min minutes
- 120
- Drive max minutes
- 150
- Fee low per person
- 0
- Fee high per person
- 0
- Price status
- No refuge entrance fee; overnight camping separate.
- Activity categories
- Hiking; Nature
- Season
- Confirm dates
- Group capacity
- Confirm group/event capacity
- Reservations
- Arrange ahead
- Equipment
- Hiking shoes, water, map and normal troop hiking equipment.
- Requirements
- Rocky, difficult trail from Sunset Picnic Area; size the route and pace to Scouts.
- Advancement support
- Hiking, Nature and rank outdoor skills where selected requirements fit.
- Additional fees
- Camping, rental equipment and arranged instruction are separate unless expressly included.
- Related campsite ID
- PC029
- Source checked
- 2026-10-04
- Fee basis
- Per person activity fee
- Planning scope
- Regular regional campout activity; verify route
Backpacking & paddling
Charon Gardens small-crew backpacking
- Recommendation
- Small crew only
- Route or activity
- Charon Gardens small-crew backpacking
- Type
- Backpacking
- Drive min minutes
- 120
- Drive max minutes
- 150
- Fee low per participant
- 6.6
- Fee high per participant
- 6.6
- Cost basis
- 10-person crew: $16 reservation + $5/person; not full-troop price
- Group capacity
- 10 people total per 3-day period
- Max participants
- 10
- Season
- Fri–Sun or Mon–Wed permit periods; no Thursday entry
- Reservations
- Recreation.gov permit; up to 3 months ahead
- Equipment
- Troop backpacking equipment.
- Advancement support
- Hiking; Backpacking; Camping; Cooking; Navigation fieldwork
- Requirements
- Rugged unmarked approach; maximum 10 total, no open fires. Cannot buy capacity for a larger troop.
- Action needed
- Confirm exact route, water, group limits and access costs.
- Source URL
- www.recreation.gov/permits/4675313…
- Source checked
- 2026-10-04